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Old 27-09-2009, 04:30 PM
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Two questions:

1. I'm swopping grayling nymphing for 'pike on the fly' this Autumn and Winter and would really welcome anyones advice on where I could go. I live on the Derbyshire and Staffordshire county border, so it would Midlands area, although I do not mind driving i.e. Rutland for good sport.

2. Any advice on rod, reel, line, leader set up, fly pattern recommendations would be very warmly welcomed.

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Old 27-09-2009, 05:21 PM
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For tackle advice see the PFFA's web site.www.pffa.co.uk

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Old 28-09-2009, 05:51 AM
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http://www.completefisher.com/forum/...er=asc&start=0 on the subject of 1st pike flies...
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Old 28-09-2009, 11:05 AM
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Dear Paul

Sorry to say but I do not fish in your area, but I have found the ea publications a great help.

http://www.environment-agency.gov.uk...ing/37927.aspx

I have been told that both fisheries below hold good pike

http://www.patshull-park.co.uk/index.php?contentid=21

http://www.blithfield.com/anglers/

As for tackle I use a 9wt with a good imtermediate, such as the Airflow 40plus coldwater. There is a lot on this forum on wire leaders, my choice is a 25lb nylon coated wire leader, using a melt knot to a Ad Swier spirral lock. I use 6-8 feet of 16 to 20lbs orvis leader material. If you would like I will send you a few flies, PM me.


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Old 28-09-2009, 08:10 PM
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Thanks Jason

I'd love a couple of flys, I do tie my own trout and grayling fly's so I could copy whatever patterns you have had success with - Let me know how much and an address and I'll send you cheque

Many thanks
Paul

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Thanks for your help

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I've contacted the PFFA and membership forms are to emailed. Many thanks to all who responded

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Old 29-09-2009, 06:19 AM
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Hi Paul - I also fish a lot for Pike (in the Baltic) with the fly albeit not in the UK and not in the midlands, so unfortunately I cant give you any tips regarding UK pike destinations. However I do feel that I can pass on some of my ideas on tackle for Pike.

For Pike fishing I use an #8 weight 1hander - which is ok for casting flies tied with flashabou on up to say hook size 1/0 or 2/0, however for casting larger flies I do not as most people use a #9 or #10 weight 1hander I use a 2hander. To be more precise a switch rod, loaded with a skagit head. I can cast this u-hand (preferred) or 2hand overhead (if standing balanced on a rock or the wave is to high) and believe me it is far less effort than chucking a #9 or even #10 1hander; set up the D-Loop and bingo your'e off. Its effortless.

With regard to leaders most of the scandinavian guys use very thick Hard-Mono or 80/100lb Fluoro, me too. And before the tonnes of "how could you's" crash down on top of me I would like to inform you that I have lost probably no more than about 3 perhaps 4 Pike (thro bite off's, not "long distant releases") over the past years and in that time I have caught what probably amounts to a few hundred Pike! Obviously if the rules of the water(s) you fish state that you have to use a wire trace then I suggest doing so, the waters I fish do not have any rules at all.

I strongly recommend barbless hooks (I use nothing else not just for Pike fishing but all other types of FF as well), a decent pair of very long nose artery forceps (I have some about 40cm long) and get to know the "chin grip" - very few Pike take the fly deep down, most of the time it is in the snout so that you can just grab the hook shank and twist it out. However if you need to go a bit deeper it is good to be able to hold it, the chin grip being probably the best way, you can leave the fish in the water and get the hook out with the forceps.

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Old 29-09-2009, 06:33 PM
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Thanks, I really appriciate you taking the time

Paul
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thoughts I recently gave somebody who asked the same question...

rod: a 9' #9 with med or med-fast action is ideal. good examples are Vision GT 4 SW Med Fast, Harrison #9/10 blanks built up, TFO Lefty Kreh Professional #9. for value, Airflo Bluetooth XT, Ron Thompson MPX+ and Shakespeare Salt/Atlantis (though this is only #8 or #10) all good

reel: Scierra Avalanche/Okuma Airframe in 7/9 is a great buy at the moment, and very good for saltwater too, with very cheap spare spools. might need to use gelspun/dyneema braid backing in 30-50lb to get enough on with a WF9F

lines: get a floater and intermediate/slow sinker to start with. Masterline toothy critter is ideal taper and only £15 or so. also the Airflo cold saltwater bass lines at similar price. wouldn't recommend surflon wire personally as it seems to be rather delicate in unusual ways - still searching for the 'ideal' trace material
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Are there any surface flies you use for pike? Surface lures (plugs) can be devastating for pike in the right conditions.
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Are there any surface flies you use for pike? Surface lures (plugs) can be devastating for pike in the right conditions.
THE most devastating surface flies I've tied are the Gartside Gurgler upscaled on a 3/0 with a red rabbit fur belly or an Umpqua pike fly with red spun deer hair head, grizzle and red hackles with a flash and white icelandic sheep hair and flash tail... technically this fly is just sub surface but the takes are fantastic!

Hope that helps...

David

PS OH @hopper re rods... if you can get a Harrison 9/10 blank
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