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Old 15-05-2009, 01:41 PM
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im new to fly fishing, i usally go coarse and there is only coarse fisheries near me just wondering if it was possible and if so how should i go about it and with what flies
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Old 15-05-2009, 01:45 PM
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Yes, it is perfectly possible and what I intend to do myself.

Have a good look in the section on this forum - "fly fishing for other species" and you will find a massive amount of information. Also look for posts by Skateboard Dave and you will not go far wrong.

What waters will you be fishing?
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Old 15-05-2009, 02:09 PM
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how do i search for this guy you got and idea what flies to use for big and small fish
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Click search at the top bar, then advanced search and put his name in search by username.

I would get hold of a copy of The Adaptable Flyfisher by Lou Stephens, which is basically a guide to catching coarse fish and wild trout on the fly.

Will tell you what you need to know in terms of tactics, tackle, flies etc.
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thanks some of his stuff is intersting
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Hi, I often catch roach, bream, perch pike and carp on the fly. Buzzers are a good bet while pike like lures and carp tend to go for mayfly, damsels and sedge. There a coarse late near me also where the local carp guys are a bit upset as a few Fly Anglers are catching more carp than they are.

Hope you have a good time.
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As a general guide i would choose small dry flies for roach, rudd and any other small surface feeding species combined with 2/3# rods.

For perch your tackle really depends on whether or not pike are present. If so then i would use something like a 6# and standard rainbow trout lures with weighted heads and a small wire trace. If not then you can use the same 2/3# gear as for roach etc but use small lures or nymphs rather than dry flies.

For pike you need some serious gear, minimum 8/9# rods with 15lb (min) leader and of course a wire trace, the flies are pretty meaty, mines average about 6/7 inches long on sea hooks, usually 6/0.

For carp I would use a 7/8# rod and again use dry flies, large bushy numbers should attract their attention when they are near the surface.

The key to fly fishing for coarse species is really to think about what they eat naturally rather than forcing them to feed on groundbaits/ loosefeed etc.

In my experience of coarse fish i find that roach can be incredibly frustrating but great fun, perch are fantastic sport and can often be seen chasing your flies 4 or 5 at a time, they put a healthy bend in a light rod. As for pike? In my opinion there is no more exciting method than fly fishing for pike, watching these beasts annihlate your fly mere feet away from you is something you have to see for yourself!
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Old 15-05-2009, 07:37 PM
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Hello my friend,

I am far from being an expert but I mostly fish for coarse species mainly due to my location, Peterborough and I only use flyrod. If you try "search" in the upper row then you will see an option at the bottom of the little window "advanced search". Click on that and then key in "Skateboard Dave" in the right hand side space where it says "search by user". Obviously try a key word at the left to make sure you end up in the right place.

To start with here are some links of my flies. These were effective last time I visited a canal in Leicester. The big ****** type things are good for perch and chub if you jerk it or jig it. Those in the pictures are with heavy heads to get them right down to the bottom even in faster/stronger current.

http://i595.photobucket.com/albums/t...y/DSC02046.jpg

http://i595.photobucket.com/albums/t...y/DSC02039.jpg

If you need any help just drop me a pm.

Best of luck! It is hard work but you will have good fun and wider variety of species to catch once you get a feel for it.
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thanks its realy helped me. but whats its effectivness compared to using coarse methods. is it hit and miss or will i catch for definate when the coarse methods are also working.
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Generally speaking The fly works best in the warmer months i.e. dont bother dry fly fishing for roach in december. I find that bait catches more but that isn't really the point, and im sure with years of developing technique then catches would be equal.

In my opinion the fly is by far the most successful method for pike though, i catch considerably more with my fly gear than i ever have on deadbaits/lures.
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