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Old 21-01-2012, 06:34 PM
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Get a friend with a spring balance to stand down one end of your garden , you at the other.
Thread up and tie line to scales, then see how much pressure you can apply to the scales with different rods.
Might be an eye opener!
Not clinical conditions I know but see what happens....
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I know the forces are only in the low lbs and infact on light line rods I would guess that it may only even read in ounces and one thing I still know for sure we are able to pull more with a #10 than a # 5 ...
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I believe the max pressure exerted when the rod is vertical is 5lb regardless of rod, that is steady pessure not jurked or pulled.
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I believe the max pressure exerted when the rod is vertical is 5lb regardless of rod, that is steady pessure not jurked or pulled.
Oh come on , now I know your just on the wind up !

You seriously trying to say a #1 will vertical lift the same as a #12 ?? and that they are infact equal @ 5 lb ??

Anyway attaching a line to some scales at the end of the garden and pulling with the rod will not give you vertical lift anyway , spose you going to tell me that is wrong as well ??
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Old 22-01-2012, 11:15 AM
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Fastest way to land a fish is to handline it, there was an old guy in the Gambia used to fish with me using a handline , he could hook a Captain fish and land it while I was still playing about with rod and reel ,
if you feel outgunned with a big fish I guess you could put your rod under your arm point it at the fish and hand it in ?
Gordi has a point about myths perpetuated , "a played out fish released belly up will die " - no it won't I've tried it many times , they recover eventually and swim off .
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I had a go at the spring balance thinng at Newark Fly Fair a couple of years ago. Mick Bell was running a comp to win one of his new #12s....the person who pulled the balance round to the highest lbage won the rod. One hand on rod and one hand on line was the rule. The balance was attached to a big block of concrete with an eye cast in it. Carl was crouching down to read the balance.

I got my go and bent the rod over to the point where the fly line broke - it was a 30lb line, so they gave me 30lbs as my result. i was astounded, the rod tip sprang up past Carl's face about an inch from his eye! It was a close call.

Anyway, i didn't win the rod becasue numpty came along half an hour later an dused two hands on the rod, one ahead of the grip and promptly broke the rod by causing a hard spot - the line didn't break.

When playing abig pike I do point the rod at the fish and haul, until I feel it turn and as soon as that power comes through I slip line and lift the rod to cushion the dive. A #10 will exert more sustained pressure than a lighter rod weight. On the kayak, the limit of pressure, unless on a drogue, anchor or straight over the fish, is the glide of the kayak - you pull the kayak through the water. the same with a boat, but it takes more to get a heavy boat moving.
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My own pike trace is made up from 30lb fluorocarbon ending in 56lb single strand wire. I am giving that Authanic a go to see how it fares.

Putting pressure on fish is not just the rod, but it does help if you want some shock absorption - plus the flex of the rod helps to keep the line taught, as it can spring straighter to keep pressure on the line MUCH faster than I can haul or wind.

Bigger weight rods are used to cast a heavier line, true, and the heavier line will carry a bigger or heavier fly, also true. However, I don't of anyone who uses a big fly to catch small fish, so the bigger rod is, by default, used to catch bigger fish. So, the #10 is the PREFERRED weight for pike.

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I believe the max pressure exerted when the rod is vertical is 5lb regardless of rod, that is steady pessure not jurked or pulled.
Is that you Matt Hayes? Sounds just like him...

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