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Old 05-08-2010, 07:43 PM
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Caught in the Welsh hills in early June this year. Unexpected, but very welcome!

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Old 05-08-2010, 09:25 PM
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Torgoch,
Nice Char,what tactics did You catch it on?
It's been a ambition of Mine for a couple of years now.
Do You hear of many Char being caught in the Welsh hills.
Well done and tight lines
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What a lovely little fish!! The size of that tail is unbelievable!!!
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Hi Brook
Yes it was nice to get a char. I was not targeting them, just using ordinary trout tactics - 3 flies and a floating line. I didn't think they'd be so near the surface to be honest. Couldn't believe it when I brought it in, as the lake is not well known for its char population. Incidentally, Torgoch is welsh for char - its not my user name

Good luck in targeting them!
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Llanberris lake is full of them... So is lake Vrnwy.. If you can still fish them ? It's been years since i was there. Use to catch using a sink tip and team of small attractors..ie:-
Butcher, Teal and Blue, Peter Ross...etc

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Diawl mawr,
Apologies,I'll have to polish up on My Welsh.

stickfloat,
Thanks for the info.Tried Llyn Cwellyn last September,no Char but had some really good looking Trout,also tried Windermere in the summer,no luck.
I'm thinking spring/early summer might be a better option.What time of year did You have Your success?
Thanks Kev.
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Hi there, I was not aware that Vyrnwy held char? Anybody able to throw light on this? Regards, TC
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From the University of Bangor’s School of Ocean Sciences

"Arctic charr Salvelinus alpinus. The Arctic charr, or Torgoch ('red belly), is a a coldwater salmonid fish with a circumpolar distribution.
In Wales, Arctic charr are only found in seven lakes in Snowdonia: three native populations (Bodlyn, Cwellyn and Padarn) and four introduced populations (Cowlyd, Diwaunedd, Dulyn and Ffynnon Llugwy). "

The resident population in an eighth lake in Wales has become extinct and this article mentions nine populations of charr in Wales however there's no mention of a population in Llyn Efyrnwy (Lake Vyrnwy)
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Llanberris lake is full of them... So is lake Vrnwy.. If you can still fish them ? It's been years since i was there. Use to catch using a sink tip and team of small attractors..ie:-
Butcher, Teal and Blue, Peter Ross...etc

Stickfloat..


Stickfloat - there are no charr in Vyrnwy. Perhaps you had a 'senior moment' and confused them with chub?

Vyrnwy, especially the top end margins is heaving with chub. It is the only large British lake, at least that I know, that has them

Charr, as a species, were declared extinct in Llanberis' Llyn Peris during the 70s when the lake was drained. Previously Llyn Peris was full of them.

Its last specimen preserved in a jar at the Museum of Wales:

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From the University of Bangor’s School of Ocean Sciences

"Arctic charr Salvelinus alpinus. The Arctic charr, or Torgoch ('red belly), is a a coldwater salmonid fish with a circumpolar distribution.
In Wales, Arctic charr are only found in seven lakes in Snowdonia: three native populations (Bodlyn, Cwellyn and Padarn) and four introduced populations (Cowlyd, Diwaunedd, Dulyn and Ffynnon Llugwy). "

The resident population in an eighth lake in Wales has become extinct and this article mentions nine populations of charr in Wales however there's no mention of a population in Llyn Efyrnwy (Lake Vyrnwy)

Thank you for a detailed and informative explanation diawl bach; the introduced populations in your post were Salvelinus alpinus perisi from Llyn Peris - hence the sub-species' name.

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Hi there, I was not aware that Vyrnwy held char? Anybody able to throw light on this? Regards, TC
Vyrnwy never did. I hope I cleared that up (above).
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Cheers Dabchick. I forgot to congratulate Diawl Mawr - my nemesis - on his capture, it's a beautiful looking fish.

What a pity that the charr relocated from Llyn Peris haven't found a pollution free home in Padarn and look likely to be buggered about again when/if a suitable home's found for them. It conjures up the image of displaced tribe that noone wants to accommodate.
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