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Old 29-04-2010, 04:49 PM
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Right folks, just probing a little and would like to know your thoughts.

I fish a good number of Bank matches and a growing concern of mine is when angler's drop on ' fish full ' early pegs or even dropping on a pod late on but do very poorly in between. I've seen many do well this way but my view is the more consistant angler has fished better on the day.
Take a match fished over 8 moves / pegs....... and one angler finishes with 9 fish having taken 5 on one peg and 4 from another, blanking on the 6 other pegs. You then have another angler who has caught on say 7 out of the 8 pegs and has landed 7 fish, blanking on 1.

So, what are your thoughts and would you like to see a change in some bank matches......... ie, results based on numbers of pegs caught on or total fish number.
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Old 29-04-2010, 05:17 PM
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Fred,

I haven't fished a lot of bank matches, but can see your concerns with regards to how things should 'pan out' so to speak.

Hows this,

For example.... 8 pegs, and you caught on 5 of them, resulting in 15 fish, for a 2lb average, equals 30lb of fish..... However, this is the twist, , if you blank on a peg, which would be 3 pegs in this example, you lose say, 1/2 lb or 1lb from you total bag weight, which the marshall/controller would mark on his own or anglers card: ie: Angler 12, 0 Fish. This would encourage anglers to get their heads down and winkle a fish out from each peg to at least compete for a place at the end of the match.

Just an idea....

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Old 29-04-2010, 05:22 PM
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Hi Fred,

This aspect of bank fishing is perhaps why many think there is little skill required. I recently fished the new qualifiers for the Scottish bank team and the fishery hosting the heat had been frozen for many months and the stocking policy was all to shot. This mean't a few heavy stockings had obviously taken place and, as often happens, the new fish accumulate and appear in a corner. The pegs in general were fairly difficult apart from two main "hot pegs". You have to take advantage of these pegs to get numbers but you had to fish them correctly to come out on top.
To answer you question, I can't decide if it would be fair to cap a peg, ie a maximum of say 3 can be caught from that peg then stop. This would mean the winner would come from the angler consistently catching at all their pegs. This would certainly prevent a winner coming from landing on a hot peg at the right time of day, but in contrast, this is the luck of the draw.
I also would add that I think in any bank competition every angler should fish every area of the fishery. This also eliminates the possibility that an angler will miss the hot spot if there is one.
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Fred, like you I fish a fair few and one method we have used on some is to have two points for the first fish on a peg and only one for subsequent fish upto a maximum of five fish per peg.

That favours the guy who catches on more pegs

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PS. I remember getting beat by someone at Elinor two years ago who had five on his last peg
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After fishing a few of these FRED id say its a lot to do with the luck of the draw but have seen enough quality anglers come through the adversity of some average angler landing a hot peg at some point. The bottom line is that its not a sprint its longer than that and eventually the better angler will winkle out a few on the lesser pegs and come through.Great point for discussion tho m8
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Right folks, just probing a little and would like to know your thoughts.

I fish a good number of Bank matches and a growing concern of mine is when angler's drop on ' fish full ' early pegs or even dropping on a pod late on but do very poorly in between. I've seen many do well this way but my view is the more consistant angler has fished better on the day.
Take a match fished over 8 moves / pegs....... and one angler finishes with 9 fish having taken 5 on one peg and 4 from another, blanking on the 6 other pegs. You then have another angler who has caught on say 7 out of the 8 pegs and has landed 7 fish, blanking on 1.

So, what are your thoughts and would you like to see a change in some bank matches......... ie, results based on numbers of pegs caught on or total fish number.
Ok, boat is first to well known hotspot drift,anglers both bag up.
Or no fish in boat till last half hour then bag up.Another boat has eight drifts
and contacts fish on all drifts.The first anglers then wants 2lb an hour for getting to fish first.My point,fish move and shoal, until they can breed anti social fish that do not shoal thats how it is.The luck of the draw can work for you in bank comps but so can being drawn in a boat with a top rod in a boat comp.Change bank,got to change boat and rivers.
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Ok, boat is first to well known hotspot drift,anglers both bag up.
Or no fish in boat till last half hour then bag up.Another boat has eight drifts
and contacts fish on all drifts.The first anglers then wants 2lb an hour for getting to fish first.My point,fish move and shoal, until they can breed anti social fish that do not shoal thats how it is.The luck of the draw can work for you in bank comps but so can being drawn in a boat with a top rod in a boat comp.Change bank,got to change boat and rivers.
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PS. I remember getting beat by someone at Elinor two years ago who had five on his last peg
And that's my exact point Charles , did i deserve to beat you in that match ?................ i wouldn't have said so .


Carl,

that's an interesting idea................. and a good one .
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And that's my exact point Charles , did i deserve to beat you in that match ?................ i wouldn't have said so .


Carl,

that's an interesting idea................. and a good one .
Maybe we'll see it in the 2011 Airflo Heats....

Like I said in a round about way mate, something needs to be implimented for the consistent angler to be rewarded..... Not a 1lb/hr time bonus either!!!

What about a C&R only heat/final, and points are awarded for length of fish, similar to the Irish rulings?

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