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Old 02-01-2010, 11:54 AM
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Its Says in the article that an individual member can compete in the National heats ?

Again it states that it needs someone to help with the website ...a forum member with experience offered to do it for free

It says that anglers just want to go fishing. SANA tried to hold their AGM last year on the 15th March which is the opening day of the Trout Season and a meeting about new teams on the eve of the Scottish national final.

This is the first year that SANA have ever picked the World/European teams, reading the article you think that this was the norm. Running the eliminators/trials was always left to the competition section.

Is it trying to say that years ago it was "jobs for the boys , full of egos and politics". Even in the Editors comments it says. "Gone are the money wasters and egos that steered this ship " Now they wonder why it has little support.
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Old 02-01-2010, 11:57 AM
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Its Says in the article that an individual member can compete in the National heats ?

Again it states that it needs someone to help with the website ...a forum member with exprience offered to do it for free

It says that anglers just want to go fishing. SANA tried to hold their AGM last year on the 15th March which is the opening day of the Trout Season and a meeting about New teams on the eve of the Scottish national final.

This is the first year that SANA have ever picked the World/European teams, reading the article you think that this was the norm. Running the eliminators/trials was always left to the competition section.

Is it trying to say that years ago it was "jobs for the boys , full of egos and politics". Even in the Editors comments it says. "Gone are the money wasters and egos that steered this ship " Now they wonder why it has very little support.

Campbell.....

I'm not too up to date with the past or present runnings of Sana or Sanacc, but I was under the impression that the 'individual' to compete in the National, had to be one of the top two in any particular registered club?

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Carl that what I thought..... it has increased to the top three club members
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Carl that what I thought..... it has increased to the top three club members
Is there a reason as to why a Non-Club member(s) cannot fish the National, or qualifiers?

Why do they have to be registered/member of a club?

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I think it would be greatly oversubscribed and an admin nightmare. I think it is easier in England where you have seperate regions all running heats then presenting the finalists to the CEFF, correct me if i am wrong. If anyone is serious about representing their country they would join a club, compete in their club comps then progress to the nationals. We have about 400 entering the nationals i would imagine that this figure would at least double if it was open to anyone. Imagine trying to run all those heats. I was always led to believe that the other countries were quite envious of the Scottish club scene.
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I don,t understand why they are changing the rules at all . They have worked fine for years and kept the club scene healthy,and you had to compete well all year in your club to even enter the national, which gives you the background needed to compete at a higher level if you are good enough to go all the way.

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Its Says in the article that an individual member can compete in the National heats ?

Again it states that it needs someone to help with the website ...a forum member with exprience offered to do it for free

It says that anglers just want to go fishing. SANA tried to hold their AGM last year on the 15th March which is the opening day of the Trout Season and a meeting about New teams on the eve of the Scottish national final.

This is the first year that SANA have ever picked the World/European teams, reading the article you think that this was the norm. Running the eliminators/trials was always left to the competition section.

Is it trying to say that years ago it was "jobs for the boys , full of egos and politics". Even in the Editors comments it says. "Gone are the money wasters and egos that steered this ship " Now they wonder why it has little support.

The previous Trout Fisherman (Dec 2009) published a letter, on page 52, by a Jim of Cumbernauld (our 3lb?) entitled; Get your facts right!

On a slightly different subject Jim points out that it is SANACC, a limited company, and not SANA - which have no input in the running of the home international.

The TF editor thanked Jim, then pointed out that only three of 100 Scottish anglers asked, actually knew what SANA was or did.
He implied that a massive communication and clarification campaign was required.
He also said communication between the magazine and Scotland is already improving; promising much better coverage for 2010. However he stressed that communication is a two-way thing and anglers at all levels must play their part.

It's only the second day of 2010; let's give them a chance.
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It seem,s that it is the new SANA bank comp that you do not need to be a member of SANA to enter , What we know as the national will have the same qualifing process it has always had ,,, I THINK
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The way I see it and its my personal opinion is that SANA knows that there is money to be made by running comps and want a piece of it. They tried the SANA open for a few years by running heats then a final, but last year instead of two heats and a final they only had enough entrants for a final. They now plan on a stillwater comp to see if they can gain popularity and generate money by charging an entry fee. They let the competitions section(SANACC) run the Worlds last year as they did in previous years, the Scottish team have their best ever result and SANA want to run it now. They would love the National, the popularity and sucess that SANACC have. They always saw the competition section as cash rich and thought that they could use this money to fight for Salmon fishing and to help riparian owners. The best way forward is to get back round the table with SANACC and for SANA to get rid of all their individual egos and go forward from there instead of trying on your own with all your new idea's. It seems that this new vision/way forward is to secure money from Sports Scotland, again money orientated
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