I have a lovely old Normark Vantage but it rarely gets used as its quite delicate - harks back to my Trent roach days, not really built to handle big chub! Will have to dust it off for grayling this year though I think, its long overdue an outing. As for closed face reels, I used to use a 506, but much prefer a 'pin. Closed face are much better than open face fixed spool for trotting, but you still can't really control the line speed like you can with a 'pin and they're cr*p for playing fish on! They're still cute though