I know this subject has been discussed here but it's an issue that is occuring with me again.

When trotting (centrepin and modern rods) the last ten metres or so of my reel line becomes increasingly 'curly' during the session. This is to a degree that can cause problems with line management etc.

Now, assuming this is a condition caused by rod ring radius (as, I believe, suggested before) there seems little that can be done other than to put up with it and cut lengths of the curly line from the reel regularly.

I generally use 3.2lb Bayer Perlon or Drennan Floatfish. Is there a a suitable line that is less effected by this. Should I go up in diameter/bs and see if this gives an improvement?

How did you load the line onto the reel ? It sounds to me as though you might have a bit of twist in the line. I can't speak for Drennan float fish but I have used Bayer in the past with no problems that I remember. Seems to me that if two different lines are giving the same problem then it probably isn't the line........................birdsnest

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Thanks for reply Birdsnest. The line is definately NOT twisted. I'm careful to load all my lines without twist - and this is easy with a 'pin. Also, if I double the line up it does not show any tendancy to twist together like a twisted line will.

Must also say, I mostly use two different rods and it happens with them both.

It's a queer one this ratty.........I can't see what would cause the the line to retain so much memory when it normally has little or none. The only thing I can think of if it isn't twist is that perhaps it's wound a bit tight on the spool...............still thinking............birdsnest

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I read about this problem in one of the mags, but please don't ask me to find it again. The twist gets worse during fishing could be caused by some baits twisting each time you retrieve. The article referred particularly to double maggot & double caster baits, and showed a method of hooking these baits to prevent them spinning, with maggots the solution was to hook one at its tail end and the other at its head end. You could also fasten your hook link to the main line using a small swivel, but I find these dont work very well. Regarding the way you load your reels, it is only recently that I have started loading fixed spool reels by the latest recommended method. I haven't noticed any significant advantage over mounting the bulk spool on a spindle and letting it spin to pay off line

Thanks Oldfart (nice monniker by the way!). Yep, I know the problem of fine hook lengths twisting due to spinning bait and if using double maggot I always hook as you suggest - not that it seems to help much.

This is definately not a line twist problem although it does get worse as the session goes on. Like I said, if twisted line is doubled it spins up into a kind of rope - this remains perfectly limp and shows none of this tendency, it's just curly.

As I hinted in my original post I seem to think it may be caused by the sharp angle of line being drawn over the tip ring-under pressure of landing too many 8lb dace in a session. A bit like spiralling paper strips over a pencil. What to do about it is another question!

What sort of rod are you using ... a broomstick? I don't see how you can have a sharp angle between the tip ring and the line when you retrieve. Whatever rod I use, the tip is nearly always bent over in line with the, er, line when retrieving.

I use Daiwa Sensor (?) ... can't remember the actual product name but it's pale white(ish) in colour and really limp ... fantastic for trotting.

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Lawrence

Standard "Match" type rods in 13' and 15'....

Is there any obvious damage to the line when it has started curling?

No damage that I can see or feel...