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Old 17-04-2009, 07:01 AM
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the Bewick is a true action centrepin ,and a fine one at that

the Aventa VT 1000 would get better with time ,as it finds its prime ,but you could have it fitted with bearings see here it would involve a little mechanical work to do it but it is possible.
What do you mean a "true action centrepin"?
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Can’t agree with negative comments about the Shakespeare Lincoln. I’m a ‘pin addict and use them for 90% of my fishing. The Lincoln is plug ugly and looks like the cheap reel it is, but its very free running and in my view as good for trotting as reels costing three or four times as much. If Shakespeare got rid of the side cast mechanism which is a bit of an irrelevance and incorporated a ratchet so you could use the reel for ledgering, it would be a real winner.
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What do you mean a "true action centrepin"?
although wether a reel has bushings or bearings on which they turn around a central shaft or pin ,and therefore all centrepins .there is however subtle differences in how they do this.technically they're all centrepins (they revolve around a central pin) its just that some have more speed than haste ,it just how they do it that separates them .

true centrepin action is when the spool rotates upon the central end float grub screw (tiny screw in the centre of the spools hub gyroscopically ) point resting on the tip of the central pin (solid pin) just like a spinning top

simple bushing action is when a centrepins bushes rotate around the central shaft (no gyroscopic motion) which has a internal thread & screw cap too retain the spool ,like a cartwheel on its axle

bearings reel is when a centrepins spool's bearings rotate around the central shaft (no gyroscopic motion) which has a internal thread & screw cap too retain the spool etc like a bicycle wheel on its hub


all centrepins use one of the above actions ,performance wise it depends on what the reel is too be used for that dictates which action is best.

float fishing on rivers then this would be the order.
1st.true centrepins (just nudges it)
2nd bearings reels (best all round reels,though)
3rd simple bushings reels

barbel or carp fishing
1st bearings (just nudges it)
2nd true centrepins
3rd simple bushings action

trouble with true centrepins is when they're good ,they're very good .but when they're not they're very bad ,where as even a half decent bearings reel (like a youngs) can be good ,the simple bushings reels are well errr adequate.

well there you have it ,simple really
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Thanks Chavender.

There's a lot of **** talked about 'pins ... that's a great explanation.
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They are good fun to use in the right places and very very pretty

I have the Okuma Sheffield (bearings) and it fulfills all the requirements needed for a centrepin. I am told the Aventa Pro does as well which is slightly cheaper.

Even when I go muddy puddle fishing (which I will do tomorrow as my river is to high) I still use it for margin fishing.
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Shakespeare seem to have introduced a slightly more expensive centerpin:

http://www.davistackle.co.uk/home.ht...id=22&vmcchk=1
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they've been around for a fair few years ,they are branded by shakespeare and a number of companies from http://www.fishingvivtek.com/products.html
And i beleave they're a simple bushing action reel with wide arbour's and are a strong reel often favoured for margin carp / tench stalking work

never liked them myself like the "leeds" they just seem too clunky for me
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Can’t agree with negative comments about the Shakespeare Lincoln. I’m a ‘pin addict and use them for 90% of my fishing. The Lincoln is plug ugly and looks like the cheap reel it is, but its very free running and in my view as good for trotting as reels costing three or four times as much. If Shakespeare got rid of the side cast mechanism which is a bit of an irrelevance and incorporated a ratchet so you could use the reel for ledgering, it would be a real winner.
That was my point - for someone just wanting a cheap pin for occasional use and who's not looking for a work of art, they'd be a good shout. As you say, they should scrap the side cast and put a ratchet on though.
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