Nah mate, probably the Waggler on a float rod, or feeder or bomb on the tip.

Prefer the latter but the former has its days.

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......and what will you fish on the coarse lakes???

Your todger mate, Worms have always been a good bait.

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You're very kind Mr Pirate.....no mention of pinkies!

Easy Phil

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Must admit I am still struggling with the hard definition of "commercial fisheries" here.

Examples from my own fishing - the Lower Itchen Fishery has an access track almost all the way along (bad) but you can catch grayling, sea trout and salmon that are by definition as wild as the wind, and see roe deer, game birds, buzzards and egrets (good).

Golden Pond Stockbridge is a pretty, secluded pool near where the rivers Test and Anton meet, again with abundant wildlife to see (good), but it's heavily stocked (bad), however the roach, crucian hybrids, carp and tench I catch there seems to be as fit as a butcher's dog (good).

I am sympathetic with condemnation of the very worst of modern commercial fisheries, but the point I'm making is that there's plenty of crossovers and grey areas, and the definition itself is blurred.

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To my mind, a commercial is a water which has stocks maintained at a density which could not be sustained through natural recruitment - an artificial fishery.

Natural stock densities for mature lowland coarse fisheries are in the range of 250kg/ha for a gravel pit to 350kg/ha for an estate lake and 500kg/ha for a rich farm pond. Commercials are usually stocked at 800-2000kg/ha.

A put-and-take trout fishery is also a kind of commercial, though usually they need stocking artificially not so much because of unsustainable stocking densities but rather because they lack spawning habitat, are not year-round habitable for trout or are only stocked with rainbows or triploids.

Maybe hard to precisely define a commercial style fishery, but not hard to spot from above

The clue is in the name- if called 'curlew' , 'dragonfly' or 'willow' I can guarantee that none of these flora or fauna is to be seen within a country mile...

Very good !

Bit reminiscent of marginal smallwater trout fisheries in the late '70s and early '80s...typically an opaque, one acre farm reservoir stocked with a few 1lb 2oz rainbows, a willow tree in one corner, and a bored looking mandarin duck and black swan swimming aimlessly about.

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I found this extremely interesting..........

presentation

Final stocking was:

5000 silvers including Skimmer Bream
Additional stocking of 65lb of Skimmers
650 Tench
650 Common/Mirror Carp
300 Crucian
57 Golden Orfe
A shoal of about 30 Dace which came in as eggs when pumping from the Mersey

A superb effort at rejuvinating an existing vintage fishery.

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