I have been tryin to find out why the rings on float rods have such a small diameter. I understand the need for longer leg but cant get my head round the small diameter. Even a 1.5mm riverge seemless ring wont pass through the tip ring.

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To keep the weigh down and they only need a diameter that will allow mono usually no more than 6 lb bs to pass through.

Well designed modern float rods are joy to use. My favourite is my Tricast Triaxial at 17' and a Stanton pin ....... wonderful.

I have never used a rig ring tho' ...... on a float rod ???

Out of interest why would you want to pass rig rings through lined eyes on any rod ?????

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Probably to stop you from using it as a feeder or ledger rod where you may need to go up in line diameter. Then you have buy another one or two.
Cynical perhaps, but not without an element of truth. I wonder how a re-ringed float rod would perform as a quiver tip? Probably perfectly adequately.

I'd actually accept a bit of extra weight gladly if manufacturers put proper bridge rings on 'em (like the old High Bells Life pattern). Those single leg affairs just drive me nuts with line wraps and such.

Surely we can handle a couple of grams extra weight. I remember happy days with a 14 foot glass rod thinking it was feather light. I used to trot all day with it. I guess I still would if I had it despite my carpal tunnel syndrome...

Don't get me wrong I like light rods but not if they sacrifice functionality for it. How light do they need to be anyhow?

As for diameter I'm not sure. But maybe too many rings will give extra drag as might too few due to line sag etc. Perhaps those here who trot with cane (which always seems to have fewer rings than modern fashion) could comment on this with more authority?

Double leggers would brace the blank at intervals (especially the tip) stiffening the action of the blank negating the properties of the rod.

Too much weight on the blank at the tip affects the recovery rate of the tip on the strike causing it to bounce which can bump small hooks on fine tackle.

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Small rings freeze up in the winter, i built a float rod last year and kitted it out with large Pacbay minima rings to help stop the freezing problem.

I love it and it did not compromise the rod.

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the reason for the 1.5mm riverge ring is so i can then attach the "terminal bit" (excuse the terminoligy as i am new to this trotting bit) that has my pre threaded float ,olivette and hook . I intend doing this as i find it difficult to tackle up with frozen hands. Threading olivettes are a nightmare.

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Good point Tupps and I can understand the theory of this. However, I'm certain blank makers could design a blank that worked just as well with decent rings. Sure it may be a tad heavier but what the heck.

I do that too, I have float end rigs made up on large pole winders. I'd advise using a connector ring running through the rod rings anyway in case it damages them. All I do is have a fig 8 loop in the end of the mono-based end rig, then tie my main (fireline crystal braid) line to it using a grinner knot. Snip off braid knot at end of session. My end rig will typicall be light/fine hooklink, loop to looped to heavier mono carrying shot and float, total length about 8-10' depending in river depth (so it doesn't come back through the rod rings anyway).

On issue of ring spacing, if the gap between rings is too great the mainline/mono flaps about and sticks to the rod when raining/wet. I've had that happen on a cheap rod once - pretty much made float fishing of any sort impossible. As to why so small, partly weight, partly just aesthetics I think, but its not essential. No reason at all why a float rod can't be used for light legering/touch legering, only limitation is how much weight it can cast. Modern Power float/carp waggler models will chuck a heavier weight obviously. Conversely I once had to use a heavy feeder rod for trotting for barbel - did the job ok, just made my arm ache!

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cheers guys......I am a philisine with this trotting and now just getting to grips with the wee traits that you "southern anglers" use
Unfortunately we just dont have the expertise in my local Scottish tackle shops....they are all fly guys, albeit not a bad thing

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