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Old 29-01-2008, 06:58 PM
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Fished yesterday on the Welsh Dee and caught quite a few nice Grayling on Gilt tail worms.

The river was high but clearing and I only waded on the edges where I could see the bottom of the river...

First it was hard going trying to find the fish and then I was only picking up very small Grayling and later I managed to find some bigger ones up to 15" I think thats about 38cm in new money....

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All in all a very enjoyable few hours fishing. looking at the weather forcast I seem to have picked the right day...
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Great pictures and beautiful fish,Well done.

What are Gilt Tail worms?
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Thanks Phil.

The fishing wasn't easy because of the hight of the river so fishing the fly was out so I trotted a Small red worm instead.

Gilt tail....Small red worm from the compost heap......
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Nice!

I was going out today but a night of rain and the drop in temp's plus a hurricane made housework and 'brownie points' a better option!!

Like the reel seat - what's the rod? Oh, and what's the laggy band for?
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Gilt tail....Small red worm from the compost heap......
Ahh.......

Reg Rhighyni refers to them in his book; supposedly the best grayling trotting bait. Are they the ones with yellow bands and full of yellowfluid?

I use 2 brandlings on a #14 spade end; millions & millions of these in the straw/manure mounds in some farms.


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Riverat.

The rod is a John Wilson Trotter. 12ft & 13 and half foot. The rubber band is for extra security for the centre pin. its all very well having fancy reel seats if you cant get the reel to fit. I had to play around with it before I could get my centre pin to fit......

Yes PiB I do believe Reg Rhighyni did say the gilt tail was the best for catching Grayling and the yellow fluid does stink a bit....thats what must attract the Grayling I suppose....
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The stripey worms full of yellow fluid are brandlings and are ok but supposed to be more bitter than redworms (not that I've tried them! ). Redworms also wriggle a bit more - top bait for all sorts of fish. Failing that, you can buy imported Dendrobenas (like big redworms) from most tackle shops and use sections rather than whole worms. If you're fishing barbless, tip the worm off with a maggot and it'll stop it wriggling off the hook. I thought "Gilt tail" was the name for big lobworms? because of their big flat spade-like tails they anchor themselves in the ground with? Lobworm tail is a good traditional bait for big roach, grayling etc but it seems like a waste of a lobworm to me!

JAD - was this a day ticket stretch and if so where please? I've only ever caught 2 grayling in my life (hardly any round this way) and keep meaning to have a proper go for them!
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The stripey worms full of yellow fluid are brandlings and are ok but supposed to be more bitter than redworms (not that I've tried them! ). Redworms also wriggle a bit more - top bait for all sorts of fish. Failing that, you can buy imported Dendrobenas (like big redworms) from most tackle shops and use sections rather than whole worms. If you're fishing barbless, tip the worm off with a maggot and it'll stop it wriggling off the hook. I thought "Gilt tail" was the name for big lobworms? because of their big flat spade-like tails they anchor themselves in the ground with? Lobworm tail is a good traditional bait for big roach, grayling etc but it seems like a waste of a lobworm to me!

JAD - was this a day ticket stretch and if so where please? I've only ever caught 2 grayling in my life (hardly any round this way) and keep meaning to have a proper go for them!
Gilt tails are red worms with a distinct yellow coloration at the tip of their tails...
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JAD,

thanks for that. Supprised the reel didn't fit well - isn't it a Youngs job just like Chuckling John uses himself.

Will there ever be standardised reel-foot dimentions...
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Details on the gilt tail are below along with red worms:

Dendrodrilus rubidus
Common name: Bank worm, tree worm or gilt tail. Habitat: Woodland species often found in rotting wood, under stones and in organic matter. Ecological Grouping: Litter dwelling

Characteristic Behaviour: When disturbed may arch its body bringing head and tail towards each other and then apart in a vigorous motion.

Characteristic features
Colour: Dark red above, pale below with conspicuous yellow or orange tail region Size: Small (Length 20-100 mm)

Eisenia fetida
Common name: Brandling or tiger worm. Habitat: Found in rich organic soils e.g. under rotting leaves and in compost heaps. Ecological Grouping: Litter dwelling

Characteristic features: Colour: Banded red and white (striped) along length of body Size: Medium (length 60-120 mm)

Characteristic Behaviour: Exudes a fetid smell if handled roughly (hence name). May be easily confused with Eisenia (Dendrobaena) veneta. In direct comparison Eisenia veneta is generally larger and the clitellum (saddle) is located closer to the head end.

for more details go to http://www.uclan.ac.uk/facs/science/...ml_species.htm

I personally fished with Reg who insisted on keeping them in spagnum moss to harden them and fed them every few days with a spoon ful of cream always ensuring that it did not sour the moss. This hardened them and a bucket of brandlings would keep all season

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