I may be going fishing to a freshwater loch near me that has some nice pike, brownies, sea trout and atlantic salmon in it and wondering which lures to use?

I have tobies and spinners (spoons), would that be better than live bait?

Ideally i'd love to cath a nice fair sized pike.

I've had some good results this year using a "vibrax Minnow"

Blue Fox - Lures - Vibrax Minnow Spin

The silver and blue patterns definately outfishing the stripey green one.

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Only 6 more days left for brownies this year (6th Oct).I take it when you mean Live bait your talking worms.??

Jim

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Everyone's catching Pike on Bulldawgs these days.

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If you want to catch a good pike you need to be fish-specific (fish for the species you want to catch).

Dead-baiting with a whole sardine or half a mackerel is a good method. Live-baiting is generally frowned-on these days.

Do a Google on deadbaiting for pike and you'll soon get the idea. Don't forget the forceps and a gardening glove.

DB

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That wouldn't happen with a Pridex

I know what I need though i have the lures and spinners (described above) just need to know if they're worth using for the pike?

I really don't want to buy anymore if i can avoid it, just looking to see if anyone has used spoons or toby lures for pike?

As for bait i was talking about worms but i prefer using lures.

This loch is a mixed bag, is there any chance a brownie would go for any of my lures even if i was fishing for pike?

Yep, you'll get pike on tobies/spoons just fine. Maybe not a big one. Now, this is heresay, coz I've never caught a big one, but I'm told that the big ones tend to go for bait rather than tobies/lures. (Maybe that's why I've never caught a big one.)

I've tended to have most success on the greenish/gold tobies, and the brownish gold ones.

As for worms, can't see a pike going for those.

Yes, there's a chance that a brown or sea trout or a salmon will go for the toby too, though obviously, the bigger the spoon the less likely that a brown will go for it, depending on how big the browns are, of course. If that's a concern, flatten the barb on the hooks as they are a complete pain to remove. You might want to do that anyway to facilitate releasing a pike.

Neil

Cool thanks Will try that and see how I get on.


If I get a monster i'll be sure to post the pics

HI,
Spoons spinners and tobies all ok for all round fishing most species will oblige !
As with using any artificial bait the route to success is presentation..many big pike have been successfully landed on spoons and spinners..
[before the advent of plugs and bulldawgs -which are excellent baits in their own right we had the famous 'Colorado spoon' chrome outer,red inner,red wool tag covering the treble and two fins at the head of the spoon around which which the lure revolved on a central wire attached to the hook.
Took fish of all sizes.
Tobies are an excellent choice for salmon and trout too..
In the loch there will be no current as such to work your choice of lure.Especially with tobies.......
I would suggest that given a little depth retrieve only fast enough as to agitate the rod tip ie:until you can just feel the pull on the rod tip as the toby is retrieved and the tip is gently 'nodding' [salmon too] hesitate every few seconds and let the toby 'flutter' downward.retrieve and so and on ..
A lot of fish tend to take as the lure is on the drop.So be prepared !
best places at any drop off from shallow to deep,where any streams-rivers or burns empty into the loch,the margins and weed beds.
A TIP
Tobies are notorious for their hooking abilities in terms of hook ups and lost fish..the fish using the toby as a lever thus slackening the hook hold.
To get round this remove the treble and attach another split ring to the existing one re-attach hook and off you go !

Kindest Regards
John

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You could also replace the treble with a large single, barbless if you're fishing C&R. Tobies ans spoons used to be quite popular for pike lure fishing back in the 70s, but more modern patterns and soft lures have taken over. Doesn't mean that the tobies won't work though.

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