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Old 05-09-2010, 06:26 PM
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Thumbs up The myth of the casting clock

http://www.smashwords.com/books/down...d-excerpts.pdf

Last weekend, I took a group of 5 youngsters, all aged under 15 years old , for a casting lesson with Tim Rolston, the authour of the book attached.
The young guys are all members of the Western Province Fly Fishing team, that will compete in the South African National Championships later this month. They can all cast sort off, but needed some polishing. Tim started off by telling them to first forget everything they know abpout casting, and the second thing he said, was that if they were unable to cast a full flyline with two back casts, by the time the lesson was over in two hours, he would give their money back. Well, no one got their money back...guess why....Yes, they were all able to cast the full line, with two back casts...amazing.
Something I have not been able to get these boys to achieve in over a year of coaching.
For those who are struggling with their casting, I suggest you try and get this book.
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Old 06-09-2010, 06:45 AM
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Why should we get the book, a lot of the stuff regarding "tow in" "power snap" "follow though" are what Joan Wulff wrote a while ago yet he has changed some of the wording, so a re-hash of Joan Wulffs work.

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This phase can be ridiculously slow, but its purpose is to start to create some movement such that the
line is not shocked from a standing start, which would cause it to “bounce”. The tow-in phase both gives
the line momentum and removes any slack from the system in preparation fro the power snap. Gordon
would always describe this phase in terms of towing a car; you ease into it, you don’t just let the clutch
out and power away. In the image above, the tow in phase of a forward cast is shown, the cast is being
made on a horizontal plane for ease of illustration.
For the sake of a description we will refer to this as the “tow-in phase” of the cast. It may seem like you
are achieving very little but this phase is an essential step to creating a good cast. Moreover, it needs to
be repeated at the beginning of each stroke, whether from a standing start, pulling the line off the water
or changing from the forward to the back cast and vice versa.The Power Snap on the forward cast, note the rod tip moves in a straight line, the snap is short and
the loop is already forming.
This is where it all happens: the rod and line are accelerated in a very short and very quick snap. The
power snap creates energy in the rod, which then releases it into the line, accelerating it and creating
the line speed and loop required for a good cast. Despite its name, the power snap doesn’t actually
require much power, just a severe and short-lived acceleration followed by a rapid deceleration as one
enters the follow through. As will be seen later, it is essential that this phase is both brisk and short. This
phase is the guts of the entire cast; get it right and the line will sing out in style, get it wrong and you
war not going to impress anyone (and you fly won’t reach too many fish either). The image is shown
with a horizontal cast for better representation, this is also the way we teach everyone to cast,
horizontal casting exercises.
Phase 3; The follow through.
This is also an essential element of good casting. Although it doesn’t seem to be doing anything at all, it
is actually putting the rod into the correct position to be able to start the tow-in phase again. You
neglect the follow through at your peril; each casting stroke much contain all three phases.
As for the clock, I agree in what he says regarding using it as a rigid teaching tool, but the clock face gives students the best visual image of what is expected with the stop on the back cast and the stop on the forward cast

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In the above illustrations notice that the rod tip is NOT moving in an arc, during the power stroke, It
moves in a straight line, and it is this straight movement that creates the ideal tight loop and the high
line speed required to produce a good cast. The ability to produce this flat, straight-line acceleration of
the rod tip is at the core of being able to cast well.
The rod tip is moving in an arc, just trace a line though along the rod tip of the drawing (follow the link folks). In fact on one drawing the tip dips below the SLP, that would give you a tail.

All good fun though and the book could be interesting, I just wonder how much of it is his own work, one of the first people to move away from the strict clock face style of casting and write it down was Mel Kreiger, so it does seem as though this chap has taken some ideas from some of the best casters and ground breaking casters and re worded it.

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Clock faces/angles/visual aids, everyone learns differently so a good instructor should be able to adapt and teach by whatever method works best for their pupil. I've lost count of the number of times I've been giving lessons using well established descriptive methods which weren't working, tried something else, and had immediate success. The second an instructor makes a blanket statement about 'the only way to do it' and lambasts any other teaching method goes down immediately in my opinion. It obviously make's writing a book much more straight forward, it may even install confidence in the reader as this guy is so confident about the method, but 'in the real world' it's a terrible character trait for an instructor to have.

* The whole premise of the book is that SOME instructors use poor language to describe the cast, I can see where he's coming from with the clock analogy, I haven't come across the problem in my experience of thousands of lessons but fair enough an interesting point, but then he describes the forward cast as a 'power snap', and that description is guaranteed to create tailing loops for the average guy!

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The word "Power" had me tailing loops for a couple of years. The I discovered the word "Acceleration" (I'm not a physicist so I prefer to think "Speed").

In the 5 Essentials, Bill Gammel lists Power: "Power must be applied in the proper amount at the proper place in the stroke." In his DVD "Teaching yourself to Fly Cast" Bill qualifies this: "for stronger men it is better to think Speed rather than Power".

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... but then he describes the forward cast as a 'power snap', and that description is guaranteed to create tailing loops for the average guy!
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There ain't no one answer, as Darren said every one learns differently and the skill of a good instructor is to find what is going to help the student he is working with at the time. All methods and analogies are equally valid as long as the learning takes place. It all depends on the learner and his personal learning style.

Of course the clock face has it limitation as it has a tendency to keep the student focused on the casting arc and has no inherent reference to the stroke length. However as part of an instructors tool kit it has its place.


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Interesting thread for me as that Rolston book "learn to fly fish in a weekend" was the first item of fly fishing gear that i owned. I picked it up after having a go at fly fishing on a holiday in S.Africa in 2008.
I spent more time reading Rolston's book than fishing or casting in the following few months and felt i didn't need to pay for a lesson until recently this year when I was not making progress with my casting.

So now, after proper instruction, I still understand casting the way Rolston describes in his book. The instructors did not contradict my Rolston-understanding but they have changed my interpretation of it, whether they talk of a casting clock or not. However, as you might expect from learning from a book, the tutors identified I had been practicing a few bad habits. I think some were picked up from my (mis)understanding of the Rolston book, namely I was swinging my casting stroke to the side (including too much arm movement), putting too much power into the stroke and generating tailing loops when trying for distance. I understood why I was putting tailing loops in, but did not know how to correct it.
Recent tuition has redirected my casting efforts away from these traits; should have had lessons sooner!

The interesting and positive thing I got from the casting chapters in the book is that I have had a number of people say my loops are "tight for a beginner".
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