i think if you can get a cast out of a 7 weight rod with a 4 line on you don't need lessons.

I just read up on all this now i fish some huge rivers with dries but the problem is i never had any room for a backcast.. It all sounds like a lot of effort casting such a light line on a seven weight rod.. Casting a 3 weight line (100 grains) on a five weight rod (140 grains) i can understand especially with lines like GPX, LT, Gold etc.. But a seven weight (185 grains) with a four weight (120 grains) line ppff sounds like hard work.. I tend to use powerfull rods in the five weight range with five weight lines to do that kind of work and still have delicacy on my long casts, but then again if it suits you why not.

Everybody benefits from having a lesson or casting session with like minded or good casters/instructors, i never get a chance to but i love to have a day or two with some of the guys on the board..

Jerry

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When I die, I want to go peacefully like my Grandfather did, in his sleep -- not screaming, like the passengers in his car.

This is very good advice.

richard

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Who resides on the right bank of the Derbyshire Wye and is lulled to sleep each night by the mutterings of a weir, dreaming that "When the rivers and their inhabitants come first, we ALL win..."

LDO, excuse my ignorance but you never said what distances you are aiming for.. Is it more or less then 100 ft.. What diameter tippet can you use i mean if they are spooky i fish 7x or 6x but in combination with a big distance and a 7/8 weight rod i think i would struggle.. Do you use some powergum or other shockabsorber, no ofcourse not the energy transfer between fly line and powergum will ruin your cast at that length of line....
Now i fish some of the huge Norwegian rivers almost every summer, well untill i met up with Buzz that is.. I use a 9,6 or 9 ft #5 BIImx and have no problem (if the wind is ok) with covering trouts rising on great distances..

Jerry

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When I die, I want to go peacefully like my Grandfather did, in his sleep -- not screaming, like the passengers in his car.

Is not absolutely odd if you use the right rod and cast.

For example do you remember the LL sage series ? The 7#3 was a very slow rod and if you wanted to land your fly under the bush then it was better to change sport.
Do you remember the 8' Sage RPL # 4/5 ? If you used it in a right manner, you could to do everything with a line 2 or 3 and to have a very nice fishing.

This was possible because a rod calibrated to cast a 4 or 5 lines but with the progressive curve and using all the cast space that you had, from 9 o'clock to almost 3 o'clock, it gave you a very big acceleration and loading it in the best way, the rod gave back the right energy to the line.

Today the better rods are build calibrated for a right line and is not longer need a more powerful rod.

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