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Old 09-01-2012, 08:08 PM
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Default why is 'fast' better than 'slow'

Prompted by the 'what makes fast' thread, thought better to open a new thread than meander a good one,

'Fast' is the buzz word of rod manufacturers, sounds cool, everyone aspires to faster, 'slow' sounds dull in comparison,

but what does 'fast' do for us?
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Old 09-01-2012, 08:14 PM
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First you have to define fast, or maybe even fast what!

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Old 09-01-2012, 08:24 PM
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fast is only fast compared to slow really but lets say 'fast action rod' and throw it wide.
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Default Re: why is 'fast' better than 'slow'

Fast / tip action (high AA) rod is more efficient for long casts because it allows wider casting arch and therefore results higher line speed yet produces longer straight line path resulting narrow line loop because tip action rod span gets shorter when it bends.
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Old 09-01-2012, 08:32 PM
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Fast / tip action (high AA) rod is more efficient for long casts because it allows wider casting arch and therefore results higher line speed yet produces longer straight line path resulting narrow line loop because tip action rod span gets shorter when it bends.
does that translate to fishing?
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Old 09-01-2012, 08:34 PM
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Default Re: why is 'fast' better than 'slow'

Ohanzee,

You will remember that surprising distance casting experiment at the casting club when three of us cast my ultra slow early 1990s 7.5 ft 3/4 weight. Several casts well over 90ft - and a couple over 100 ft - so it isn't distance!

I wonder if the fastest rods require timing so exquisite that the average caster can't cast very well with them. That's certainly the case with me and I cast further and more importantly much better with medium action rods.
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Default Re: why is 'fast' better than 'slow'

I'm guessing here, but presumably if the rod recovers faster it will, all other things being equal, result in higher line speed. This in turn must result in more kinetic energy (KE = 1/2mv2) so allowing the caster to cover more distance for a given amount of effort. Or am I wrong again?
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Old 09-01-2012, 08:39 PM
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does that translate to fishing?
It can. I and many others like faster action rods for heavier lines and for longer fishing range.
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Old 09-01-2012, 08:44 PM
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Excuse me. this is a subject I would not normally get involved with but are you discussing best in relation to a casting rod or a fishing rod...

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It can. I and many others like faster action rods for heavier lines and for longer fishing range.
We have to be careful though too heavy a line sure slows down a quick rod! It's a funny old game (which makes it interesting).

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