hi there guys new to the site

having a little trouble with my casting in short.

the distance in itself is not the problem but id say 4 times out of 10 when i try and get it a little further the last 4 to 5 feet of the line seems to float vertically ? as such coupled with a 10 to 15 foot leader depending can knock quite a bit of the distance and presentation is rubish to say the least as the leader and end of the flyline gathers in a bundle not to mention droppers tangled etc .

i cant seem to pinpoint what the problem is but seems to get a little better when i hold the rod about 3 feet from the water on the last forward cast and lean right forward like i am trying to keep the rod loaded for longer or something which isnt right having to bring the rod that far forward.

rod is a flextec 10ft 8/9wt m/f action

line is airflo 40+ 8wt floating

distance of 32 metres at most ( measured on the playing fields lol ) is achievable without the line going too wrong at the point

around 3 to 4 years ago i was using a 9wt line ( scierra xda which is now discontinued and i cant find an 8 or 9 wf floting out there now ) and an 11'5 foot rod with a fast action and never had this problem and could manage to get it '' into the backing '' as such which i think is around 34 metres or such but after a break from fishing and just getting back into it again im getting frustrated just getting those few meters again

is it the rod / line or is it me lol

sorry for the long post just like to be descriptive lol

What are you fishing for that needs a 9# line.anyway it sounds to me(by your description)that your using too much power on the forward cast .is it a 40+expert(short head) or the other one (Long head)
It is very unlikley that you will find a 11'3'' with a fast action as that is not what that type of rod is designed for

Jim

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You are experiencing line collaps. I'm not surprised, as you are fishing with a mis matched, and unbalanced outfit. The 40plus line needs more tip speed than you will get from the average 10 foot rod. If you were to fish a fast actioned 9 footter, you will have more success. Look, I'm not a great fan of ther 40plus lines anyway, but a stiffer faster tip is what is needed. 10 foot rods tend to be a little too lazy in the tip for the line you are using.

hi there

mainly reservoir fishing etc from the bank but some saltwater and sea trout fishing

cant quote exactly on the 11'5 rod being fast action but was indeed a lot stiffer in the mid section compared to the rod im using now which is med/fast

i would agree i use a lot of power on the forward cast but wouldnt know what to do with nearly 20 to 25 metres of aerialised line behind me if i didnt punch it out hard enough lol i suppose if i can get it backwards with ease then maybe i am trying a little hard to get it forward ?

when the line is shooting out the belly / shooting head goes ok but its like the thin part at the end slows down and allows the shooting head to pass it in flight if you know what i mean

dont remember which of the two it is but i know theres a black join where the running line meets the shooting head and believe its the longer line of the 2 new 40+ ones as both my friends and mine were bought from new with mine being slightly longer but had an odd black join in it

seems to make a little sense to me as when loading the road on the forward cast its like i cant feel a thing sometimes as if the rod isnt loading correctly

im a bit like a driver that can drive but knows s@1t about cars lol so matching rod and lines is quite hard in a sense for me but i can cast the thing , i use a dt5 on a 4/5 weight rod for rivers ( 9ft 4 piece ) and can cast the whole 25 metres of the line with good presentation and have a lot of feeling as such through the rod and what the line is doing so i take it they are matched quite well ?

what sort of distance lines would you recomend as i cant seem to find an xda of which i was used to before as i agree that im not a fan of the 40+ line bumping through the rod tips etc and the general running line seems more like backing line

EEEEKK.I don't know how long the head is but I doubt it's 75' You should be shooting the line when you get to the back taper, and not trying to hold up the head with the running line.

Jim

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My reaction exactly. These lines are designed to be shot out with a haul, and anything more than the head aerialised, is going to create a heap of trouble. Try keep less line aerialised, certainly no more than the head, then give it a haul on the forward stroke, and watch it fly out

the 40+ line doesnt shoot that far out for me when i try that , even when double hauling etc

maybe it is just the rod as said above , as also you said ( 3lb grayling ) about me not needing to aerialise so much line , i never had to that much with my old setup and it seemed to want to punch the line out from only being loaded so far id say the rod i've got now which is pretty dyer ( **** ) requires more line to be '' up there '' in order to get it '' out there '' lol which as you guys stated isnt right

thinking of buying new outfit recently so will defo give it ago but do better research on what combo will suit me best

what rods out there would be capable of putting a line out at 30 to 40 metres without taking most of my might up there to hold line that need not be held up there lol ?

The 40plus, needs a fast action 9 foot rod for best performance. It requires a huge amount of tip speed, and fast recovery. No need to double haul that line, a single haul is all thats needed. You get the head moving, and once it is under control, give a haul and shoot it out.

Might has nothing to do with it(casting).And very few anglers can cast 40mtsIn fact most have problems getting 20mts. If you want to distance cast, get a fast actioned rod.and use shooting heads .

Jim

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