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Old 12-05-2011, 10:52 PM
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Default Casting with the wind Loch styling

Hi I just wondered if anybody had on tips of casting with the wind behind you as in casting from the boat lock styling.
My casting is ok when the wind isn't so strong but as soon as it picks up the back cast collapses and i often have the fly hit my the back of my jacket on the forward cast luckily I haven't had a hook in the back of the head yet
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Old 12-05-2011, 11:03 PM
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Default Re: Casting with the wind Loch styling

Short fast line on the back cast.shoot high on the forward cast,trying to limit your false casting to 1 if possible.

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Exactly what Jim said, if you could also put a haul into the back cast that may help, but Jim has it spot on

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Old 13-05-2011, 06:37 AM
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Default Re: Casting with the wind Loch styling

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Short fast line on the back cast.shoot high on the forward cast,trying to limit your false casting to 1 if possible.

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you can test that today jim. looks a bit windy mate.
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Old 13-05-2011, 06:39 AM
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Default Re: Casting with the wind Loch styling

Sound's like you're breaking your wrist on your back cast presenting a large tensionless loop that the wind can easily catch and blow back onto you, book a lesson so an instructor can see what's going on to resolve it.
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Old 13-05-2011, 07:19 AM
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Default Re: Casting with the wind Loch styling

If your fishing on the pointy end you can also use the Belgian cast, as it makes things rather comfortable too.For me anyway.My personal favourite.
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Default Re: Casting with the wind Loch styling

if fishing from a boat with a strong wind from behind i use a fast action rod i would normally use for distance work from the bank-this throws a tighter loop into the backcast.The haul also increases line speed.Another problem i have noticed in these conditions is accelerating the rod too fast too soon on the backcast in an attempt to beat the wind

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Old 17-05-2011, 11:47 AM
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Default Re: Casting with the wind Loch styling

True 'loch style' doesn't involve long casts, so I stick to roll casting and using the end of the 'dibble' of the top dropper to form the 'D' needed for this, There is no real retrieve in the accepted sense of drawing line through the rod rings, I use a constant length of extended line and simply lift the rod tip gradually to correspond with drift speed - and use a drogue to control this as far as possible. In the event of a take at the extreme end of the cast, you obviously have difficulty in making any kind of 'strike' but roll casting immediately usually results in a good hook-up. This means that winds aren't a particular problem, and the higher the wind the shorter the line you need to have out. It works particularly well with a floating line, and I use weighted flies (tied with tungsten beads or lead wire or tungsten sheet underbodies) in the point fly position of a three or four fly cast to achieve greater depth when necessary. Also, roll casting alone results in many fewer tangles in high winds when fishing multi-fly setups.
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Default Re: Casting with the wind Loch styling

Craven,

When trying the roll casting thing, with weighted (or even just sunk) flies, I find that the flies don't get clear of the water and my leader doesn't unfurl all the way. I end up with the point fly still in the water about half way along the path of the partially extended fly line.

How much line do you roll cast with? Am I trying to cast too far? (I suspect this is the answer.) Or should I give the rod a bit of a pull back towards the end of the retrieve to lift the flies higher in the water and form the D loop?

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