I see that the question of double hauling is being debated at length in Anjinsan’s thread here, and I wondered what anyone thought of the TREBLE haul. This is a technique which I developed/stumbled across some years ago. (I wouldn’t dream of claiming to have invented it as I’m sure many others will have discovered its advantages for themselves).
Anyway, the first haul is made on the backcast in the usual way, and as the line is extending to the rear the left hand (assuming a right-handed caster) goes up to meet the rod hand, which at this point is somewhere around the right ear. The second haul is made the instant the line straightens behind and BEFORE the rod hand begins the forward stroke. This haul is relatively short and not particularly fast (think ‘heavy’ rather than quick) and ends when the left hand reaches upper-chest level. The rod hand then, and only then, begins the forward cast, with the line hand executing the third and final haul at the usual point.
The purpose of the extra (second) haul is to pre-load the rod before the forward cast begins. It also increases tension in the system and, in my experience, at least, contributes to an efficient and effective cast.

Interesting!

Can I just check:

On your second haul - you dont bounce back up again? Your hand simply waits until a third haul takes place starting from the upper chest position (rather than going back up to the ear first).

Is that correct?

Thanks

Colin

Very interesting indeed. In my case it would seem logical that the line hand doesn't back up after the second haul, because my second (or should I say third, now) haul is directed backward instead of downward. So my hand is already in a lower position (heart) at that moment. Will try it out asap.

Regards,
Johan

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That's almost right, Colin. The left hand can't bounce back at that stage as the line is no longer travelling rearwards and to raise the left hand again would simply throw slack into the system and defeat the object of the exercise. The left hand does move after the second haul is complete, but only in tandem with the rod hand, so the two remain the same distance apart until the third and final haul.
Sorry, I should have made that clear in my original post.
Angus

Hi Angus,

Quick question. If you don't mind. Are you adding a drift any where ? Like in between the second & third haul.

Sean

Sounds like a good way to produce a late tailing loop to me - unless your timing's perfect so as not to allow the rod tip to rise after the 2nd haul as described. Got any video of it?

Hi Sean,
I might add drift during the completion of the first haul (as the left hand is catching up with the right and the line is straightening behind me) but certainly no later.
And yes, James, if your timing is out the result can indeed be a tailing loop. Sorry, I have no video facilities, and even if I had I wouldn't have the first idea of how to upload the footage. But, if you are familiar with the Joan Wulff video Dynamics of Fly Casting, visualise the section where she breaks down the cast into three sections on the ground in front of her. The short second haul which I describe comes after the completion of what Joan calls the "give the line back" stage, and before the start of the loading move for the forward cast.
I hope that makes it a little clearer.
Angus

Is there any advantage in introducing the extra haul? I can't really see why one would need to do this, when a standard double haul works fine. If a person can use the single or double haul satisfactorilly, would it not be complcating things, and for a person who can't haul properly, is the extra haul actually going to add any value?
You haul once on the back cast, you haul once and release on the forward cast. What else is really required?

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Perhaps I over-sold this cast in the title of the original post, by promising advantages. Such advantage as it offers is simply to extend one of the advantages of the double haul: i.e. to spread the work. (I also find that it seems to generate higher line speed more easily, but perhaps that is just me.)
I posted this in the certain knowledge that there would be some who would dismiss it out of hand, and in the less certain hope that others might try it, find it to their liking, and add it to their armoury.
Of course it is not vital to making a good cast. But then neither is single or double hauling in many, if not most, angling situations. If, as seems generally accepted, more than 95 per cent of fish are caught at ranges of less that 40 feet, then, unless you are punching a big fly into the teeth of a gale, there is no need to haul. (And don't forget that accomplished casters can chuck 100 feet or more without even a single haul.)
I'm sure that most of us, having once learned how to do it, haul purely out of habit. This shortens the life of both the fly line and rod rings, particularly so when there is suspended solid matter in the water, but perhaps that is a small consideration in the over-all scheme of things.
Angus