A couple of questions for distance casters.

1. What backing do you recommend?

2. Joining backing to line. I was talking to another forum member about this yesterday. What I normally do is strip the plastic from the core then whip the join and cover with several very thin coats of aquasure - which is quite a long process and doesn't always work well. I wondered if there is a better and easier coating to use.


Malcolm

i use 20lb sea fishing line and join it with blood knot

Depends on what i'm looking to achieve,If it's an individual shooting head,without need for changing heads I use 3' of' Braid.with the flyline and airflo polyshoot butting up against each other in the middle with a good blind whip finnish at the Ends of the braid.works a treat.
If I'm going to be changing heads I use a braided loop on the head,and tie the polyshoot with a big loop.

Jim

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Hi Malcolm,

For general fishing that involves a lot of shooting of line, I use 3M or Teeny salwater shooting line. Basically that is a monofilament core with a fly line dressing on the top. It is much stiffer than regular shooting line. It tangles less once stretched.

Normally if I want to make up a line that does not involve changing the casting head, I slip the fly line core up inside the shooting line for around 20mm and super glue it. A tiny low profile whip done with a bobbin holder pun round to lay the thread tightly stops the very end of the braid fraying. I usually finish that whip with some slow drying epoxy rubbed in to seal it.



David.

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Hello David,
as I understand it you thread the fly line core through the shooting line? I suppose this is with a braided core shooting line or do you use this technique with a nylon core shooting line as well? Any chance of a (small) SBS cause this is mighty interesting?

Hello Jim,
I tried your system as well but had a break off on the joint which cost me a 40£ head. What i did though was superglue the braid before whipping it and i guess that is what caused the breakage

Hello Malcolm,
Did you mean backing to fly line or as David and Jim understood head to shooting line?

Kind regards,
Johan

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SBS? I'm not familiar with that term.

You can use a needle to open the hole through the core of the backing, and then strip the flyline coating by dipping it in some cellulose thinners till it softens. Leave around 15-20mm sticking out from the line coating. Then smear some superglue over the braid. Let it harden till it is nice and stiff. (or use a cyno cure spray to speed drying up) Trim to a point, then another dab of glue on it, then push it into the backing. A small 5mm whip and the job is done. I have never had that joint fail in use in fresh or saltwater.

You can use the same technigue to form a loop in the shooting line if you want to use heads. I prefer to keep different lines that are permanenty bonded to the backing on seperate spools. The junction is much lower profile than a loop to loop joint and slips through the rod guides more smoothly.


David.

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SBS is short for step by step

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Like just said
Use braid put the fly line inside the braid for about 1 1/2 inches and put a whipping on the back of the braid then superglue.
It will not come off just check it ever couple of trips. That was the method used with a full DT line for distance casting events.


Gary