Just an after thought, I use Leeda selecta cast, size 1, 22lbs--3lbs 15ft, so as not to have to replace, and thread it through the core of the fly line when it shortens through tying flies on,I wait until the leader shortens to around 12ft I then tie on a Roman Moser ring, tucked half blood knot, Tie my tippets to that, I can tie a dropper on to the same ring if I wish