I think you have missed the point, the discussion was not about casting 35 yds, it was simply about the length of WF fly lines, "Which WF fly line is the longest??", since posting this I have found out from a Cortland dealer, Cortland at 35 yds is the longest line made, thank you all for your interest. He gave the reason that some casters can put out a full 35 yds and they don't like to feel the backing in their hand, I uderstand Charles Jardine is one of them!! Not me!!!!, not for the want of trying tho' !!